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	<title>Comments on: Is it acupuncture or is it ECT?</title>
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	<link>http://www.lambic.co.uk/blog/archives/2005/03/is-it-acupuncture-or-is-it-ect/</link>
	<description>I'm gonna say this once and once only. Stay out of Camberwick Green!</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lambic</title>
		<link>http://www.lambic.co.uk/blog/archives/2005/03/is-it-acupuncture-or-is-it-ect/#comment-53448</link>
		<dc:creator>lambic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Several studies have been done on acupuncture.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, and none of the well performed ones have found anything beyond placebo.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Here’s another one proving / showing the existence of meridians&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hmm, it's a bit of a leap to go from finding tiny threadlike structures to calling them meridians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Several studies have been done on acupuncture.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, and none of the well performed ones have found anything beyond placebo.</p>
<blockquote><p>Here’s another one proving / showing the existence of meridians</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm, it&#8217;s a bit of a leap to go from finding tiny threadlike structures to calling them meridians.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://www.lambic.co.uk/blog/archives/2005/03/is-it-acupuncture-or-is-it-ect/#comment-53440</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several studies have been done on acupuncture.

Here's another one proving / showing the existence of meridians, the places where acupuncturists place needles.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1810370</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several studies have been done on acupuncture.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another one proving / showing the existence of meridians, the places where acupuncturists place needles.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1810370" >http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1810370</a></p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
		<link>http://www.lambic.co.uk/blog/archives/2005/03/is-it-acupuncture-or-is-it-ect/#comment-17783</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>acupuncture works, no doubt, for anything</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>acupuncture works, no doubt, for anything</p>
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		<title>By: J. Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://www.lambic.co.uk/blog/archives/2005/03/is-it-acupuncture-or-is-it-ect/#comment-8541</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>further scientific information about acupuncture:
www.gerac.de, site language german, english</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>further scientific information about acupuncture:<br />
<a href="http://www.gerac.de" >http://www.gerac.de</a>, site language german, english</p>
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		<title>By: lambic</title>
		<link>http://www.lambic.co.uk/blog/archives/2005/03/is-it-acupuncture-or-is-it-ect/#comment-7076</link>
		<dc:creator>lambic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a quick look around, and Wikipedia had the best summary of acupuncture research:

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The jury is still out on the effectiveness of acupuncture, with existing evidence &lt;em&gt;slightly&lt;/em&gt; favouring the proposition that it &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; be effective in &lt;em&gt;some&lt;/em&gt; cases for &lt;em&gt;some&lt;/em&gt; conditions. However, almost all the research on the effectiveness of acupuncture is of poor quality and can be criticised on various grounds. Much more research (of a much higher quality) needs to be done before the effectiveness of acupuncture is generally accepted within the medical community.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a quick look around, and Wikipedia had the best summary of acupuncture research:</p>
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The jury is still out on the effectiveness of acupuncture, with existing evidence <em>slightly</em> favouring the proposition that it <em>can</em> be effective in <em>some</em> cases for <em>some</em> conditions. However, almost all the research on the effectiveness of acupuncture is of poor quality and can be criticised on various grounds. Much more research (of a much higher quality) needs to be done before the effectiveness of acupuncture is generally accepted within the medical community.
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		<title>By: lambic</title>
		<link>http://www.lambic.co.uk/blog/archives/2005/03/is-it-acupuncture-or-is-it-ect/#comment-7064</link>
		<dc:creator>lambic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I know there is no concrete evidence of the efficacy of acupuncture, but I'm not an expert so I'd be happy to be proved wrong. I know a three year study back in the 90s found it to be no better than a placebo.

That wasn't the point of this post though. The study I'm questioning claimed to show the efficacy of acupuncture when in fact it did no such thing. If there is any evidence that acupuncture has some beneficial value, this study wasn't it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I know there is no concrete evidence of the efficacy of acupuncture, but I&#8217;m not an expert so I&#8217;d be happy to be proved wrong. I know a three year study back in the 90s found it to be no better than a placebo.</p>
<p>That wasn&#8217;t the point of this post though. The study I&#8217;m questioning claimed to show the efficacy of acupuncture when in fact it did no such thing. If there is any evidence that acupuncture has some beneficial value, this study wasn&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>By: carismo</title>
		<link>http://www.lambic.co.uk/blog/archives/2005/03/is-it-acupuncture-or-is-it-ect/#comment-7053</link>
		<dc:creator>carismo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 06:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...but I thought that acupuncture is virtually the only alternative medicine that *does* have some evidence to back up its efficacy. Though, on the other hand, there is also the case of St. John's Wort, which, in Germany has been prescribed by MD's as a firstline of defence for depression, ahead of prozac(!), for a good ten years now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;but I thought that acupuncture is virtually the only alternative medicine that *does* have some evidence to back up its efficacy. Though, on the other hand, there is also the case of St. John&#8217;s Wort, which, in Germany has been prescribed by MD&#8217;s as a firstline of defence for depression, ahead of prozac(!), for a good ten years now&#8230;</p>
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